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Originally posted by arneharris arneharris wrote:


Mr. Calderone - you read and post here, so why not make yourself accountable to the citizens?

Accountable but sad
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heehee.
public comment is allowed at the very beginning of the council meeting, w/a 3 minute limit.
there will be an op to speak at the next council mtg, sept. 14, 7pm.
 
funny you should bring this up tho. at some point tellalian, asking for explanation and discussion, mentioned involving 'the audience.'
the mayor almost had a cow, and corrected that crazy notion.
 
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Originally posted by arneharris arneharris wrote:

Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

tellalian, rather forcefully, asked for calderone and/or curry to explain why this 'at will' employee would receive. said it is bad precedent, said is looks like 'hush money.'
calderone and curry declined comment or discussion.


OR, Mr. Calderone - you read and post here, so why not make yourself accountable to the citizens?
give him a call. he'll be pleased to tell you how accountable he is, in a private conversation.
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Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

Originally posted by arneharris arneharris wrote:

Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

tellalian, rather forcefully, asked for calderone and/or curry to explain why this 'at will' employee would receive. said it is bad precedent, said is looks like 'hush money.'
calderone and curry declined comment or discussion.


OR, Mr. Calderone - you read and post here, so why not make yourself accountable to the citizens?
give him a call. he'll be pleased to tell you how accountable he is, in a private conversation.


As a non-resident I don't care enough to, yet if someone does they could surely disseminate his reasoning here and put this to rest. 
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Confidentiality agreements don't mean much when you are subpoenaed....
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Originally posted by arneharris arneharris wrote:

Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

Originally posted by arneharris arneharris wrote:

Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

tellalian, rather forcefully, asked for calderone and/or curry to explain why this 'at will' employee would receive. said it is bad precedent, said is looks like 'hush money.'
calderone and curry declined comment or discussion.
OR, Mr. Calderone - you read and post here, so why not make yourself accountable to the citizens?
give him a call. he'll be pleased to tell you how accountable he is, in a private conversation.
As a non-resident I don't care enough to, yet if someone does they could surely disseminate his reasoning here and put this to rest. 
 
ah, you're looking for 'reasoning.'
here's a clip of a recent discussion - not on this topic, but you'll get the gist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Lq771TVm4
 
 
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Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

Originally posted by arneharris arneharris wrote:

Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

Originally posted by arneharris arneharris wrote:

Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

tellalian, rather forcefully, asked for calderone and/or curry to explain why this 'at will' employee would receive. said it is bad precedent, said is looks like 'hush money.'
calderone and curry declined comment or discussion.
OR, Mr. Calderone - you read and post here, so why not make yourself accountable to the citizens?
give him a call. he'll be pleased to tell you how accountable he is, in a private conversation.
As a non-resident I don't care enough to, yet if someone does they could surely disseminate his reasoning here and put this to rest. 
 
ah, you're looking for 'reasoning.'
here's a clip of a recent discussion - not on this topic, but you'll get the gist.
 
 


Well, technically Tellalian was, but I find it rather unsettling that MATC could not...

Not "did not," but "could not."
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Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

Evidently, the Boyle stuff is all top secret. Hush hush, confidentiality agreements to be signed. Secrets to be kept secret.

More BS in this village. It never stops at Forest Park Calderone country club does it.


No it never does and is only getting worse.
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No it never does and is only getting worse.


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Originally posted by Sharon Daly Sharon Daly wrote:

well...
jo Ellyn Charlton (consultant) wrote the staff report for the 447 porch.
and she has a new employer: WBK Engineering (Wills Burke Kelsey LTD, St. Charles IL)
btw, this week i received a $490 bill from the village for joellyn's work re: my porch. plus another $150 to 'apply' for zoning relief.
once i pay the village $640 for the privilege of rebuilding my side porch, i will be allowed to pay them for permits.
 
note that i was never billed for the freaking full year of zoning 'work' re: my parking pad.
good thing curry doesn't want to turn his bldg dept into a 'cash cow.'
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Is WBK Engineering a side company of the other Burke that we pay tons of money to for all their wonderful oversight of our village hired contractors (you know the Home Depot crew that's building our road)?
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Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

Is WBK Engineering a side company of the other Burke that we pay tons of money to for all their wonderful oversight of our village hired contractors (you know the Home Depot crew that's building our road)?
don't know. they're municipal engineers.
seems like a bit of over-buy to write porch reports @ $140/hour.
billed:
1 hour for ZBA report
2 hours for VC report
1 hour for 'ordinance preparation'
 
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given the chaos we call our bldg dept, and that i didn't hire joellyn - where is the oversight to confirm this billing?
what, no half hours? why did the village report cost 2x the ZBA report - no cut/paste function?
 
don't you think the bldg dept should notifiy an owner when they hire consultants to do the normal tasks of the bldg dept, and the clock is ticking?
 
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I wonder what Hosty or Curry had to pay the village for their amendments? How much does a consultant charge to look over blueprints on yellow legal pad paper?
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Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

don't you think the bldg dept should notifiy an owner when they hire consultants to do the normal tasks of the bldg dept, and the clock is ticking?

100% hell yeah they should.  They could be making sh!t up as the go along to soak you.
Insane.  And you were billed nothing for the same work on your pad? 

Do elected officials have to pay back the city for reverse engineering on their permitless projects?  Probably not.
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if you talk to anyone who has tried, running our bldg dept is not doable by one person.
FP's zoning fetish pushes the whole dept beyond its capacity - we need both a bldg/safety head and a zoning head.
but the review reports that curry doesn't want to hire even one person to replace boyle.
something has got to give. we simply don't have the resources (or the will) to support all of it.
 
is this the answer? "In all sincerity, why shouldn't a property owner just build whatever they like and then purchase the requisite permits after the project is done?"
 
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Seems that with the way the building dept. is currently staffed, that would be the way to go. As long as what you're doing is within codes, no harm no foul.

Hey, that should be what's on the signs coming into FP.

Welcome to the Village of Forest Park......No Harm, No Foul
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Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

Hey, that should be what's on the signs coming into FP.

Welcome to the Village of Forest Park......No Harm, No Foul
and, it fits nicely w/our softball museum :)
 
seriously, isn't that the way FP used to be? live, let live, keep it safe.
and then tony (also a poopy head) got all hallucinatory visiony.
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Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

Hey, that should be what's on the signs coming into FP. Welcome to the Village of Forest Park......No Harm, No Foul

and, it fits nicely w/our softball museum :)

 

seriously, isn't that the way FP used to be? live, let live, keep it safe.

and then tony (also a poopy head) got all hallucinatory visiony.



I think the signs need to say Small Town Charm, Big Town Corruption!!!
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Good one FP Prop Owner.
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Originally posted by FP Property Owner FP Property Owner wrote:

I think the signs need to say Small Town Charm, Big Town Corruption!!!


Not sure corruption's the right word. Incompetence fits better.
On a cost/benefit scale, corruption would be cheaper.

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in the marani story, the issue of condo inspections:
 
"To receive an occupancy permit for a condo within a multi-unit building in Forest Park, local inspectors are only interested in the condition of that specific condo, according to Bob Teets, interim director of the Department of Public Health and Safety.
That common areas such as hallways, the roof, stairs and other generally used portions of the building weren't complete is irrelevant to the issuance of an occupancy permit for a single unit within the building.

Curry, commissioner of the department, confirmed those are the standards that apply in Forest Park."

i sure need more clarification on this. when does the village inspect the common elements of a condo bldg?

the village does 5 inspections on new sfhome construction. 4 specific and 1 overall inspection before occupancy permits are issued.
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Something is wrong wrong wrong here. So the hallways can have mold hanging from the ceilings that are dripping water, but if the unit is okay, that's fine then? Wow, something is wrong, wrong, wrong.

*********For clarification the hallways I'm talking about are hypothetical hallways.********
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Well pie, your post was serendipitous - took this just last night, in our hallway - but these are new leaks so it's a-okay:
 
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I'm sorry FP2, I really am. I would be absolutely crazy by this time if this were happening to me. I truly would.

In your photo, is that wood at the corner of where the ceiling meets a red wall? Just partial? And the paint doesn't even go to the edge?   Looks like a mighty sag on that ceiling.
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i love chief glinke! bet he doesn't touch zoning w/a 10'stick :)
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Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

per the thread title: now what? this!

 

 


Glinke quoted: "It's been done before. Communities are looking for creative ways to do more with less."

Where's the less? The Journal has an article about River Forest's $12.8 million budget. Ours is more than twice that.

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" The Journal has an article about River Forest's $12.8 million budget. Ours is more than twice that."
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that is astounding!
perhaps move this to a different thread, cause i need to know more.
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don't you guys think you're weird for not commenting on this development? i do :)
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