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    Posted: 07/December/2009 at 3:28pm
Before 9/11/2001, we had Pearl Harbor 12/7/41.

God bless all who gave their lives and well being.
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Originally posted by backman backman wrote:

Before 9/11/2001, we had Pearl Harbor 12/7/41.

God bless all who gave their lives and well being.


Amen.

As they announced over the 1MC system when we sailed past the mast of the sunken, USS Arizona, "All eyes to starboard."
"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

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amen, amen.

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Rest in Peace Great- Great Uncle Barney..and all the others who died.
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Yes, God Bless those poor souls who died while sleeping on the Arizona and others who were stationed at Pearl Harbor.  Also God’s blessings to those brave American airmen who volunteered to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  Their heroic actions instantly killed tens of thousands of our enemy and brought the imperial nation of Japan to its knees before they could kill anymore of our great, great,Uncle Barneys. 

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You're right, Tree Frog. The a-bombs shortened the war, and saved conservatively 100,000 American lives, probably 500,000 or more.

But those nuclear blasts killed mostly civilians, not soldiers. So while I agree with the regrettable need to drop those bombs-- to save American lives-- and have no sympathy for the warlords who drove Japan to destruction, excuse me if I have too much compassion for the ordinary Japanese people who played no part in the war, to celebrate those horrendous acts.

Oh, and BTW-- more people died later, not immediately, and slowly and agonizingly, in the 20 years following Nagasaki and Hiroshima, than died in the actual bombings.

So I seriously doubt God was blessing anything on either Dec. 7 or Aug. 6 and Aug. 9.

The original post here was to honor those who died during Japan's treachery on Dec. 7, 1941, not bray about the events that saw Japanese mothers and children incinerated on Aug. 6 and 9, 1945.



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Originally posted by Mr. D Mr. D wrote:

You're right, Tree Frog. The a-bombs shortened the war, and saved conservatively 100,000 American lives, probably 500,000 or more.

But those nuclear blasts killed mostly civilians, not soldiers. So while I agree with the regrettable need to drop those bombs-- to save American lives-- and have no sympathy for the warlords who drove Japan to destruction, excuse me if I have too much compassion for the ordinary Japanese people who played no part in the war, to celebrate those horrendous acts.

Oh, and BTW-- more people died later, not immediately, and slowly and agonizingly, in the 20 years following Nagasaki and Hiroshima, than died in the actual bombings.

So I seriously doubt God was blessing anything on either Dec. 7 or Aug. 6 and Aug. 9.

The original post here was to honor those who died during Japan's treachery on Dec. 7, 1941, not bray about the events that saw Japanese mothers and children incinerated on Aug. 6 and 9, 1945.

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Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki are deep water sea ports which supported the Japanese navy.  Hiroshima was the place where military experts planned the attack on Pearl Harbor and Nagasaki is the place that produced the goods and equipment for it.  Both were military towns and the local population provided the infrastructure to carry out the attacks. 

By most accounts, both the Germans and the Japanese were only months behind the U.S. in developing nuclear bombs.  Unknown to the Americans at the time, a random airstrike in February of 1945 destroyed a factory that had the weapons grade uranium needed to build Japan’s first bomb.   In April of 1945, the Americans captured a German submarine, the U-234, which was loaded with uranium oxide and heading for a delivery in Japan.  Early that summer, the Russians shot down a Japanese cargo plane over Korea carrying the raw fuel needed to create nuclear weapons.  All of these aggressive military actions saved the U.S. and other nations from the horror of nuclear attacks.

The intentions of those who conspired to murdered great great Uncle Barney at Pearl Harbor and those who were planning nuclear strikes against the United States were one and the same. 

I say again, all of God’s blessings to those brave airmen who had the courage to drop those bombs.  They did for our country what their brothers at Pearl Harbor could no longer do.



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