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Originally posted by Dan Haley Dan Haley wrote:

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"Anyhow, the implication I've read from one poster is that we are selling editorial copy to advertisers. And someone thinks they have proof. Would love to see that proof.
We don't do that. Real newspapers don't do that." Dan Haley


I have to say I don't believe in the Forest Park Review to report accurately anymore.  The day after the last meeting of the Zoning Appeals board there was a very informative article written by Helen.  Told both sides...the online version even included a PDF with the letter from 2007 ordering them to stop providing personal grooming services.  However since that time it has likely changed since there have been some disturbing developments-

1.  Week 1 after the meeting 3/23.  Noticed The Team Blonde Exception editorial was especially glossy.  Called Team Blonde smart...but hid behind the Village while disobeying zoning...They already had received a letter in 2007 from Mike Boyle telling them to stop providing those services because they were not zoned for it...before they even got big. 
It could not have been Helen who wrote it because many of the points were from someone who did not hear testimony and she was there.  There were way too many holes in the what the editorial was trying to say. 
"Anyhow, the implication I've read from one poster is that we are selling editorial copy to advertisers. And someone thinks they have proof. Would love to see that proof.
We don't do that. Real newspapers don't do that." Dan Haley


It was not the same person who wrote the 3/16 editorial about the Commissioners voting for zoning relief for Gaetano's...
'Well Kumbaya, Commissioner. Instead of putting this behind us, we'd suggest a focus on learning from our mistakes. It is a much healthier approach in the long run.' 

2.  Week 2 after the meeting 3/30.  Noticed a great report about window displays...however the only text...a lot of text was dedicated only to the events around Team Blonde.  Although other store windows had a picture of them...only Team Blonde had the 'feel good' article. 

What happened at Baubo's Garden, Deedee and Edee, M Santana, Afkara Shoes, Todd and Holland, Heels, and Girlicious.  The article did not contain any of these names since it was about Team Blonde...luckily the pictures had captions of what stores also participated.  I wonder how they feel about the 'Window Shopping' Ad.

3.  Week 3 after the Meeting Another mention for Team Blonde in the letter section.  The whole idea is to keep them in a good light until this passes...

Any Thoughts on this?


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truthseeker, it would be best to link to all the pieces you refer to - to help folks who want to follow your thinking.
haley wrote a longish piece on this in the josh adams thread.
 
i have two tons of thoughts on zoning - both business and residential, and thoughts regarding review coverage of both.
appears you feel there is some favoritism re: team blonde. you could be right, but you've provided no evidence that it is advertising based.
 
 
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josh adams, writer and son, shares a bit of himself before he leaves for nashville.
http://www.forestparkreview.com/main.asp?SectionID=3&SubSectionID=3&ArticleID=4859&TM=84282.66
 
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Hey Dan?

Reconcile your editorial with the reportage regarding The Russian, Marani and Sundry.

"Beyond its private sector angels of that era who bought key buildings and patiently invested in them, Forest Park does not seemingly have a plan for recruitment, financing, retention."

Don't ask; Don't tell?

I bet Pottersville had an award winning local paper too?

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Folks--
The reference in the edit was not to the trio mentioned. Rather it looked back a bit farther to the start of the remaking of Madison Street when Art Jones and his partners used their own money, brought key but troubled buildings, waited patiently, aggressively recruited key tenants (Two Fish, Todd and Holland) and did first-rate build-outs.
Our news coverage of Troyanovsky, Art Sundry and Robert Marani has been direct and thorough.
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Originally posted by Dan Haley Dan Haley wrote:

Folks--
The reference in the edit was not to the trio mentioned. Rather it looked back a bit farther to the start of the remaking of Madison Street when Art Jones and his partners used their own money, brought key but troubled buildings, waited patiently, aggressively recruited key tenants (Two Fish, Todd and Holland) and did first-rate build-outs.

Our news coverage of Troyanovsky, Art Sundry and Robert Marani has been direct and thorough.

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Right, Art and friends just salted the mine. The Review just reported the Gold Rush. How convenient.

PUBLIC funds were used. On both the infrastructure and operation of Main Street. How much, by whom and who profited? Minor details eh?






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Is this the same Troyanovsky in the foreclosures in the back of the Review?
FOCUS !!
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I would say YES. I believe he is the one behind the Roos mess.

Yep, our village lets all these developers in ala Cherryfield, screw things up and then they go back to their foreign country. Scum. Never liked the Cherryfield guy; always felt he was here to milk us and then leave. Just what he did.
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That's what happens when government doesn't stand firm and protect the general interest, i.e., everyone else, when developers concerned only with their own narrow self-interest ask for code variances and other special treatment.

Those requirements aren't there simply as impediments, they're there to slow things down and allow the government's administrative and elected officials, as well as those effected by developments, to fully understand what's happening and have a chance to raise questions and concerns, and when necessary, require changes.

At least, that's the way it's supposed to work.
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Ah, SUPPOSED to work. Not so much here in Calderoneland. Here, we believe everything the developer tells us as gospel and grant variances and blessings.
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Originally posted by Dan Haley Dan Haley wrote:

Folks--
Our news coverage of Troyanovsky, Art Sundry and Robert Marani has been direct and thorough.
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the editorial/news side of newspapers take great pride in NOT factoring advertisers in their reporting. it's an essential ethical issue and the bedrock of an independent press.


I guess maybe your claim has been tested. The Park District places an ad for Roos Demo bids and NOBODY on the news side takes notice? Nobody thinks there might be some sort of NEWS to report?

Instead, we get Error ridden guessing and rewritten information?

and after the fact notice of the flood-damage dumpster placements; days after the dumpsters were removed?




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Whooo-Hoooooooooooooooo!

Another Editor for the BEST WEEKLY EVAH!
Read it and weep

A fine Mea Culpa from Danny Boy. Giving Forest Park the kind of
coverage it deserves? Strong community ties based on her grandparents
living here until her father was SIX.

Etch-A-Sketch journalism triumphs again.


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Were you expecting Woodward & Bernstein Watcher?
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Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

Were you expecting Woodward & Bernstein Watcher?


Some hint of consistency. A level of appreciation for the function of local journalism and perhaps an admission that the mess were in was, at minimum missed, if not ignored, by WJInc's eyes on the wrong prize.




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Showing your age . The board readers under 40 (if any) probably won't know who Woodward and Bernstein are without a quick google or wiki.

Edited by JM303 - 18/August/2010 at 5:29pm
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welcome, ms. drews. FPR has had a few great editors and we look forward to you joining that crowd.
best to helen and congrats to josh. nashville? :) 
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both the review and certain village officials insist on characterizing run-of-the-mill governmental criticism as 'personal.'
very odd, as 99 out of 100 times the criticism is of a professional nature, i.e. the criticism relates to the way local officials do their jobs.
I hope we can avoid this on your watch, ms crews, as it completely derails problem diagnoses and solutions.
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Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

welcome, ms. drews. FPR has had a few great editors and we look forward to you joining that crowd.
best to helen and congrats to josh. nashville? :) 


I too look foward to Ms. Drews' take on local journalism. I hope she has a good pair of track shoes. Covering a small town you find out how big small can be.

What I've found of her online work is solid. I'd love to hear the backstory to the censorship flap. A good story on masturbation would probably drive up readership...






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Originally posted by watcher watcher wrote:

masturbation ???


Where do I send my Yearly payment. ...BCB.. :)
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Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

both the review and certain village officials insist on characterizing run-of-the-mill governmental criticism as 'personal.'
very odd, as 99 out of 100 times the criticism is of a professional nature, i.e. the criticism relates to the way local officials do their jobs.
I hope we can avoid this on your watch, ms crews, as it completely derails problem diagnoses and solutions.


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Originally posted by watcher watcher wrote:

Originally posted by citizen citizen wrote:

welcome, ms. drews. FPR has had a few great editors and we look forward to you joining that crowd.
best to helen and congrats to josh. nashville? :) 


I too look foward to Ms. Drews' take on local journalism. I hope she has a good pair of track shoes. Covering a small town you find out how big small can be.

What I've found of her online work is solid. I'd love to hear the backstory to the censorship flap. A good story on masturbation would probably drive up readership...


In what may mark a new low in burying the lead, Jackie informs us that Katie Drews is leaving. Ken Trainor noted that Josh had the longest tenure as Review Editor. Does Katie now reign as shortest?

Fare well Katie, I'm sure the next editor's already up to speed and will have your four months of notes to work with going forward.

What now Dan? Another committee?



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YIKES!!!
 
here's the quote: "It's a sad day at the Journal/Review. We are losing our beautiful young editor, Katie Drews. Katie, we hardly knew ye. She's going back to her old job, which didn't have the money to keep her around full-time. They got more funding and loyal Katie is going back. She worked for Chicago Catholic News, a rather new online publication, run by young Catholics with a new perspective on events in the church. Good luck, Katie. Everyone here will miss you."
 
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Our beautiful young editor?  wtf?
"Ye" never had a chance; she's too catholic. 
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Is there anyone in the WJINC bullpen? Bueller?

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Seeing as it will take most likely all of January to get a replacement in the Review editor's chair, and candidate endorsements will be published just six or seven weeks after that, you can bet the mortgage the Review endorsement in mid- March will be Dan Haley's call. 

We'll see if he's willing to upset a few people in the Mainstreet group.

And let's also watch and see how the Review covers the Marani v Village settlement in January. Superficial editorial pontifiction, or real digging for all the facts?
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Originally posted by Dunlop Man Dunlop Man wrote:

Seeing as it will take most likely all of January to get a replacement in the Review editor's chair, and candidate endorsements will be published just six or seven weeks after that, you can bet the mortgage the Review endorsement in mid- March will be Dan Haley's call.

We'll see if he's willing to upset a few people in the Mainstreet group.

And let's also watch and see how the Review covers the Marani v Village settlement in January. Superficial editorial pontifiction, or real digging for all the facts?


What does Dan know of present day FoPa? When was his last journalism related visit? I don't think there is a Main Street anymore. Wasn't it rolled back into the chamber when the funding dried up?

None of this bodes well for an objective press between now and April.

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Sorry to see you Go Katie Drews, I Take all the Sinning that goes around this town, it's time to give a Few Hundred Thousand Hail Mary's for us. :)  

A Catholic doing the News Here in FP? What Next?, A Jew Giving away Money? A Smart Polack?? A Kid That Has not yet Grown hair on his face as a New Commissioner???

Not To mention Nice Talking to you in Person Katie, "May the Force Be with you,,, Always....." BCB...  
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Bcb, c'mon.... Jews have a long history of giving away huge sums off cash. Look at the names on the donor plaques of most hospital wings.

And Bill Gates is in the process of giving away $37 or $38 BILLION. 
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