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    Posted: 05/July/2011 at 12:10am
I thought about posting this under humor but that doesn't work. Perhaps we need a catagory called Irony?

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Read that over the weekend and thought, oh well, one less stupid biker...stupid because helmets save lives. Just ask my other half some day!
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There is a guy who i see almost daily with a kid on his motorcycle maybe about 7 yrs old neither have a helmet.
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I always demanded that my girls wear a helmet when riding with me, even though they hated it and thought it was nerdy. But the law only states that you have to wear eye protection. Was the kid wearing glasses?

As for helmets, I think it's a personal choice. Sometimes I wear one and sometimes not. Depends on where I'm going. There was a biker icon by the name of Indian Larry (also from New york) who was killed in a parking lot while doing a stunt. He was known for trick-riding where he'd stand up on the seat while the bike was moving. He fell and hit his head, and the rest is a sad footnote to his legacy.

Looking from the other side of the fence... I too often see people in cars who don't have their kids in car seats, they're texting while driving, or have the car jammed full of passengers beyond it's rated capacity.

Whether you're driving or riding, Darwinism comes into play. There are always going to be people who mess up. Whether they're obeying the laws or breaking them. Backman's link is another one of those stories that is definitely ironic. Shit happens.




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Originally posted by Mr. Deeds Mr. Deeds wrote:

I too often see people in cars who don't have their kids in car seats, they're texting while driving, or have the car jammed full of passengers beyond it's rated capacity. Whether you're driving or riding, Darwinism comes into play. There are always going to be people who mess up.


Drives me crazy when I see people in cars with no seatbelts on or the kids not restrained. And when a kid dies (being ejected from a car in an accident), the mother is always on the news crying about her baby. Very sad and so many useless deaths could be prevented.
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Originally posted by Mr. Deeds Mr. Deeds wrote:

I always demanded that my girls wear a helmet when riding with me, even though they hated it and thought it was nerdy. But the law only states that you have to wear eye protection. Was the kid wearing glasses?As for helmets, I think it's a personal choice. Sometimes I wear one and sometimes not. Depends on where I'm going. There was a biker icon by the name of Indian Larry (also from New york) who was killed in a parking lot while doing a stunt. He was known for trick-riding where he'd stand up on the seat while the bike was moving. He fell and hit his head, and the rest is a sad footnote to his legacy.Looking from the other side of the fence... I too often see people in cars who don't have their kids in car seats, they're texting while driving, or have the car jammed full of passengers beyond it's rated capacity.Whether you're driving or riding, Darwinism comes into play. There are always going to be people who mess up. Whether they're obeying the laws or breaking them. Backman's link is another one of those stories that is definitely ironic. Shit happens.


The difference being there ARE laws that say no texting and kids have to be belted in.
Why is no helmet a personal choice when it's clearly unsafe?

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I say fine, don't wear a helmet; although your insurance coverage is invalid in a head injury claim. Pretty simple; why should others have to pay for a vegetable to be kept alive in a bad situation or extensive hospital stay. JMO
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Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

I say fine, don't wear a helmet; although your insurance coverage is invalid in a head injury claim. Pretty simple; why should others have to pay for a vegetable to be kept alive in a bad situation or extensive hospital stay. JMO


So with no insurance who's paying for the care? Friends and family? Trust fund?



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Originally posted by watcher watcher wrote:

Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

I say fine, don't wear a helmet; although your insurance coverage is invalid in a head injury claim. Pretty simple; why should others have to pay for a vegetable to be kept alive in a bad situation or extensive hospital stay. JMO


So with no insurance who's paying for the care? Friends and family? Trust fund?

I don't know; their other non-helmet wearing biker friends? Why should I pay for their selfishness.
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Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

Originally posted by watcher watcher wrote:

Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

I say fine, don't wear a helmet; although your insurance coverage is invalid in a head injury claim. Pretty simple; why should others have to pay for a vegetable to be kept alive in a bad situation or extensive hospital stay. JMO


So with no insurance who's paying for the care? Friends and family? Trust fund?

I don't know; their other non-helmet wearing biker friends? Why should I pay for their selfishness.


This statement shows that you haven't thought it through.

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Never mind; I'll just tell them that you are all for supporting their stupidness, it will be added to your health/life insurance policy.
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Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

Originally posted by watcher watcher wrote:

Originally posted by piehead piehead wrote:

I say fine, don't wear a helmet; although your insurance coverage is invalid in a head injury claim. Pretty simple; why should others have to pay for a vegetable to be kept alive in a bad situation or extensive hospital stay. JMO


So with no insurance who's paying for the care? Friends and family? Trust fund?

I don't know; their other non-helmet wearing biker friends? Why should I pay for their selfishness.

Maybe they could charge a higher premium for the choice of not having to wear one?


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That could work; my company charges more for health insurance for smokers vs. non.
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